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		<title>By: Monica Ricci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica Ricci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, first of all, I am so thankful that NAPO (National Assoc of Professional Organizers) brought YOU in for a keynote at our last conference. Otherwise, I would never have met you and may not have known about your blog and your general awesomeness. 

Secondly, you&#039;re right on. I have been speaking for more than a couple years and I frequently have colleagues who are new in my industry, with next to no experienced, who want to take me out to lunch and &quot;pick my brain&quot; on how to get speaking engagements. My answer is always &quot;be an expert first&quot;. 

Work with clients, get experience in your industry, DO THE WORK for a while and cultivate some good stories and a decent depth and breadth of actual (gasp!) EXPERIENCE in your field, before you stand up in front of a room and ask someone to pay you money for regurgitating information anyone could have read out of Better Homes and Gardens Magazine.

Jim, I also loved Outliers and believe the 10,000 hours thing.
Jeffrey, you&#039;re cracking me up &amp; I feel privileged to know you! 
Mike, we&#039;ve ALL done silly stuff. Ahhh youth...  :o)

Scott, you&#039;re top notch. 

~Monica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, first of all, I am so thankful that NAPO (National Assoc of Professional Organizers) brought YOU in for a keynote at our last conference. Otherwise, I would never have met you and may not have known about your blog and your general awesomeness. </p>
<p>Secondly, you&#8217;re right on. I have been speaking for more than a couple years and I frequently have colleagues who are new in my industry, with next to no experienced, who want to take me out to lunch and &#8220;pick my brain&#8221; on how to get speaking engagements. My answer is always &#8220;be an expert first&#8221;. </p>
<p>Work with clients, get experience in your industry, DO THE WORK for a while and cultivate some good stories and a decent depth and breadth of actual (gasp!) EXPERIENCE in your field, before you stand up in front of a room and ask someone to pay you money for regurgitating information anyone could have read out of Better Homes and Gardens Magazine.</p>
<p>Jim, I also loved Outliers and believe the 10,000 hours thing.<br />
Jeffrey, you&#8217;re cracking me up &amp; I feel privileged to know you!<br />
Mike, we&#8217;ve ALL done silly stuff. Ahhh youth&#8230;  <img src='http://mckainviewpoint.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>Scott, you&#8217;re top notch. </p>
<p>~Monica</p>
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		<title>By: John Curran</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Curran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a lighter note, this reminds of the telegram Groucho Marx sent to the Friar&#039;s Club after attending a meeting:
&quot;PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON&#039;T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER.&quot; (G. Marx, 1959: 320-321)

Deep background and commentary are found at http://www.16-9.dk/2007-02/side11_inenglish.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a lighter note, this reminds of the telegram Groucho Marx sent to the Friar&#8217;s Club after attending a meeting:<br />
&#8220;PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON&#8217;T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER.&#8221; (G. Marx, 1959: 320-321)</p>
<p>Deep background and commentary are found at <a href="http://www.16-9.dk/2007-02/side11_inenglish.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.16-9.dk/2007-02/side11_inenglish.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do people fall for that, Scott?  Oh I can tell you firsthand and embarrass myself in the process.  But this was when I was very, very young.  What entices people is they don&#039;t know what they don&#039;t know -- but they want, at least in some way, to know.  Now the embarrassment.  I once fell for an ad that promised success with a formula called -- don&#039;t you laugh yet! -- OPM.  Yeah, Scott, I got a very expensive education learning OPM was Other People&#039;s Money!  This was back in the mid-1970s, OK?  I had no one I could ask and I was ripe pickings for the scam artists (hey, at least I never answered a &quot;Work from Home&quot; ad!).  So it is today too.  But today, really, there&#039;s little excuse what with the Internet, right?  Um, no.  The scammers are all over the place here too.  I see them selling &quot;eBooks&quot; (really, scammy pamphlets!) and &quot;Get rich selling eBooks&quot; formulas (junk templates to be filled in).  All of these people looking for The Shortcut -- there isn&#039;t one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people fall for that, Scott?  Oh I can tell you firsthand and embarrass myself in the process.  But this was when I was very, very young.  What entices people is they don&#8217;t know what they don&#8217;t know &#8212; but they want, at least in some way, to know.  Now the embarrassment.  I once fell for an ad that promised success with a formula called &#8212; don&#8217;t you laugh yet! &#8212; OPM.  Yeah, Scott, I got a very expensive education learning OPM was Other People&#8217;s Money!  This was back in the mid-1970s, OK?  I had no one I could ask and I was ripe pickings for the scam artists (hey, at least I never answered a &#8220;Work from Home&#8221; ad!).  So it is today too.  But today, really, there&#8217;s little excuse what with the Internet, right?  Um, no.  The scammers are all over the place here too.  I see them selling &#8220;eBooks&#8221; (really, scammy pamphlets!) and &#8220;Get rich selling eBooks&#8221; formulas (junk templates to be filled in).  All of these people looking for The Shortcut &#8212; there isn&#8217;t one!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Summers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on, everyone is ENTITLED to have or have access to the same stuff everyone else gets. Otherwise, it&#039;s just not fair. You&#039;re no better than I am and I deserve to be treated as good as the next guy. Who cares if I&#039;m broke or have no college degree or a day&#039;s worth of experience in this area? I&#039;m ENTITLED to success as much as you are.

Also, I did write a book and it had great content, but nobody bought it because I was discriminated against by the publisher who relegated it to 2nd &amp; 3rd tier retail outlets like &quot;Half-Priced Books&quot;. I&#039;m gonna be self-publishing from now on, so there!

As for speaking engagements, companies are just plain stupid for not hiring me to do their keynotes. I could really help them make a ton more money if they&#039;d just listen to me. Heck, I walked on hot coals at my last seminar so I&#039;m more than qualified to talk about finance, economics, market forces, sand-box building, or any future trends in any business. I don&#039;t need to know how your business works to tell you how to revolutionize it. That&#039;s just short-sighted.

You people should feel fortunate to just be able to hang out with me.

Lovingly yours,
Jeffrey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on, everyone is ENTITLED to have or have access to the same stuff everyone else gets. Otherwise, it&#8217;s just not fair. You&#8217;re no better than I am and I deserve to be treated as good as the next guy. Who cares if I&#8217;m broke or have no college degree or a day&#8217;s worth of experience in this area? I&#8217;m ENTITLED to success as much as you are.</p>
<p>Also, I did write a book and it had great content, but nobody bought it because I was discriminated against by the publisher who relegated it to 2nd &amp; 3rd tier retail outlets like &#8220;Half-Priced Books&#8221;. I&#8217;m gonna be self-publishing from now on, so there!</p>
<p>As for speaking engagements, companies are just plain stupid for not hiring me to do their keynotes. I could really help them make a ton more money if they&#8217;d just listen to me. Heck, I walked on hot coals at my last seminar so I&#8217;m more than qualified to talk about finance, economics, market forces, sand-box building, or any future trends in any business. I don&#8217;t need to know how your business works to tell you how to revolutionize it. That&#8217;s just short-sighted.</p>
<p>You people should feel fortunate to just be able to hang out with me.</p>
<p>Lovingly yours,<br />
Jeffrey</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Seybert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Seybert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one, Scott.

Yes, exclusivity is why professional baseball players are so fun to watch, and why people pay top dollar to enjoy plays ON Broadway in New York. It&#039;s why there are only a handful of credible network news anchors and why some authors make the best seller list on the day their books release. 

These &quot;secret tips&quot; schemes promise to help folks skip over all the incredible hard work required to become an overnight sensation; like taking steroids to accelerate muscle development. 

Malcomb Gladwell wrote about the 10,000 Rule in Outliers - and it makes a lot of sense to me. The premise is that you can&#039;t ever become really proficient at something until you&#039;ve logged 10,000 hours doing it. And there&#039;s no shortcut for the 10,000 hours. Some may learn a bit faster than others and some may be able to dedicate more concentrated time to their &quot;training.&quot; Gladwell estimates most people reach that 10K mark in ten years of intentional work.

If 10 years is the &quot;magic time&quot; then I am just about a year from hitting my 10,000 hour level as a Strengths consultant. And you know what? I can actually see evidence that the work I&#039;ve put into my craft is beginning to mature; the investments are beginning to pay off. I&#039;m on the verge of joining an exclusive club - and it is good to know I belong here. 

Question for you - some folks probably join the &quot;elite club&quot; wanting to learn from the best. What do you think about some sort of apprentice level participation? Similar to baseball&#039;s farm team arrangement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one, Scott.</p>
<p>Yes, exclusivity is why professional baseball players are so fun to watch, and why people pay top dollar to enjoy plays ON Broadway in New York. It&#8217;s why there are only a handful of credible network news anchors and why some authors make the best seller list on the day their books release. </p>
<p>These &#8220;secret tips&#8221; schemes promise to help folks skip over all the incredible hard work required to become an overnight sensation; like taking steroids to accelerate muscle development. </p>
<p>Malcomb Gladwell wrote about the 10,000 Rule in Outliers &#8211; and it makes a lot of sense to me. The premise is that you can&#8217;t ever become really proficient at something until you&#8217;ve logged 10,000 hours doing it. And there&#8217;s no shortcut for the 10,000 hours. Some may learn a bit faster than others and some may be able to dedicate more concentrated time to their &#8220;training.&#8221; Gladwell estimates most people reach that 10K mark in ten years of intentional work.</p>
<p>If 10 years is the &#8220;magic time&#8221; then I am just about a year from hitting my 10,000 hour level as a Strengths consultant. And you know what? I can actually see evidence that the work I&#8217;ve put into my craft is beginning to mature; the investments are beginning to pay off. I&#8217;m on the verge of joining an exclusive club &#8211; and it is good to know I belong here. </p>
<p>Question for you &#8211; some folks probably join the &#8220;elite club&#8221; wanting to learn from the best. What do you think about some sort of apprentice level participation? Similar to baseball&#8217;s farm team arrangement?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McKain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott McKain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeb --

Thank you so much for your kind comment, Jeb - I appreciate it.  And, of course, you&#039;re right...there HAS to be that balance you&#039;ve suggested.

We should never confuse an effort to surround ourselves with success with a desire to recklessly (or prejudicially) exclude sincere contributors.  The &quot;smoke-filled room&quot; is the classic example of a good practice gone tragically awry. 

Trying to limit the length of an already-long post, I left out some points I should have included.  Yet, I look at my long-time membership in the National Speakers Association and suggest that while the best ideas about any profession may very well come from a member who has not attained the level of success as the top people -- they seldom arise from someone who has never practiced the craft.

I think it all gets back to sincerity of purpose.  If you sincerely want to be a top performer, you&#039;ll find ways to contribute in a manner that the successful will listen to and appreciate.  If you just desire the trappings of success, the already-successful will tune you out.

Your post reminds me of the series of audio and video programs produced by your father -- the remarkable, late Bill Brooks -- and Jim Cathcart on professional speaking.  I listened to every tape, watched every video, and learned at the feet of Masters on that program.  These were true leaders sharing profound messages.

What I&#039;m objecting to here is the movement that &quot;everyone can join,&quot; &quot;everyone can be successful,&quot; and &quot;everyone can teach.&quot;  It&#039;s just not true.  If I&#039;m going to listen and learn...it&#039;s going to be from highly successful professionals sharing deep insights.  It&#039;s not going to be from some unknown promising a quick fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeb &#8211;</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your kind comment, Jeb &#8211; I appreciate it.  And, of course, you&#8217;re right&#8230;there HAS to be that balance you&#8217;ve suggested.</p>
<p>We should never confuse an effort to surround ourselves with success with a desire to recklessly (or prejudicially) exclude sincere contributors.  The &#8220;smoke-filled room&#8221; is the classic example of a good practice gone tragically awry. </p>
<p>Trying to limit the length of an already-long post, I left out some points I should have included.  Yet, I look at my long-time membership in the National Speakers Association and suggest that while the best ideas about any profession may very well come from a member who has not attained the level of success as the top people &#8212; they seldom arise from someone who has never practiced the craft.</p>
<p>I think it all gets back to sincerity of purpose.  If you sincerely want to be a top performer, you&#8217;ll find ways to contribute in a manner that the successful will listen to and appreciate.  If you just desire the trappings of success, the already-successful will tune you out.</p>
<p>Your post reminds me of the series of audio and video programs produced by your father &#8212; the remarkable, late Bill Brooks &#8212; and Jim Cathcart on professional speaking.  I listened to every tape, watched every video, and learned at the feet of Masters on that program.  These were true leaders sharing profound messages.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m objecting to here is the movement that &#8220;everyone can join,&#8221; &#8220;everyone can be successful,&#8221; and &#8220;everyone can teach.&#8221;  It&#8217;s just not true.  If I&#8217;m going to listen and learn&#8230;it&#8217;s going to be from highly successful professionals sharing deep insights.  It&#8217;s not going to be from some unknown promising a quick fix.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeb Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeb Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, thought-provoking content. Thank you! And I think you&#039;re right, a desire for inclusiveness can get in the way of superior performance. But isn&#039;t there a balance between being exclusionary and welcoming fresh perspectives? Elitism like you describe can be good unless it becomes a smoke-filled room where a few people adopt a &quot;my way or the highway&quot; mentality. I&#039;m wondering how to define criteria that limit admission AND welcome new ideas? Don&#039;t some of the best ideas come from people who aren&#039;t yet successful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, thought-provoking content. Thank you! And I think you&#8217;re right, a desire for inclusiveness can get in the way of superior performance. But isn&#8217;t there a balance between being exclusionary and welcoming fresh perspectives? Elitism like you describe can be good unless it becomes a smoke-filled room where a few people adopt a &#8220;my way or the highway&#8221; mentality. I&#8217;m wondering how to define criteria that limit admission AND welcome new ideas? Don&#8217;t some of the best ideas come from people who aren&#8217;t yet successful?</p>
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